Posts by days of future passed

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Update....Not That Anyone Cares

by 1234 in

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this isn't a poor me thread.....just what is going on here in my small world.. since both my son and me own tour companies, when the lock down happened three weeks ago our businesses literally died over night.

we both depended on the tourist that come to phoenix and sedona, so that all went away as people stop taking vacations.

all future tours have been cancelled.. my son moved in with me two days ago, much to chagrin of his jehovah's witness mother.

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I've not gone into work for a week or so - CA - but I look at youtube and have gotten some art work done. How I miss having time to just do art. Guess I have time now.

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How Come we never saw this before????

by Newly Enlightened in

oh my goodness!

how come we never thought of this before?

if the israelites had animals to sacrifice to jehovah in the wilderness, then how come their god jehovah had to give them manna so they wouldn't starved to death?.

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I always thought of Manna as being the food that supplied what just eating meat didn't. You know like vitamins and greenage.

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Name 3 Movies You Have Seen At Least 3 Times

by minimus in

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goodfellas.

one flew over the cuckoos nest.

casino.

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Oh and the African Queen

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Name 3 Movies You Have Seen At Least 3 Times

by minimus in

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goodfellas.

one flew over the cuckoos nest.

casino.

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I've seen many on other peoples list but I'll add:

Persuasion

The Flight of the Phoenix

Most of Akira Kurosawa period piece films like Yojimbo, Rashomon and Seven Samurai

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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I also got sick with the "flu" with fever, fatigue and heavy coughing in january/feb. There is person who is Chinese working in my shop who was out for almost 2 weeks before I got sick. Makes me wonder too. I've never had that combo before. I stayed home for an extra 3 days after I started feeling better.

The thing is, after I started getting better I never relapsed like they talk about for the virus. I did stay tired for like a week after with low energy which I've never experienced before either.

No one else got sick at where I work.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

days of future passed

I'm surprised they don't hold the religionists responsible for inciting a gathering. I guess since it isn't an enforced lock down, the people listening to their religious leaders are fools and responsible if they get infected?

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So do you think the Russian brothers are saying "WTF" right now?

by nowwhat? in

they were told to risk imprisonment to keep meeting and preaching because "we must obey god rather than men".

while here in the u s. we voluntarily cancel meetings and preaching because "we need to be in subjection to the superior authorities".

thoughts?.

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That's a good point. Both involve the well being of the followers. Those in Malawi couldn't buy the few cents worth card because it would comprise their faith. so they suffered terribly and some died. Now Russians have the same privilege.

I guess those under threat of the virus (which I am not making fun of) can still write letters or make phone calls for their service. Makes it ok for the GB to obey the Governments in this case. Makes them look wise and compassionate. Wonder if they would have let them stay home if they didn't have their own channel to "educate" the regulars.

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War question

by tmkm130 in

hi, my father is a jehovah's witness.

my sister wanted to do something nice for him and decided to have a shirt made with the ship he was on when he was in the navy many years ago.

he was not in the war, but he said that he can't wear it because jehovah's witnesses don't believe in war.

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Yes as Jehovah's witnesses they wouldn't want to have emblems or beliefs that don't go along with their religion.

In the past, they actually did go to "war" and in the bible, there is nothing that specifically prohibits it. I'll just paste part of an article that I got at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/war.php - this is just so you know. Most JW's will not care if older articles contradict what is being taught now. They also wouldn't want any emblems of their countries flags since it would represent them worshiping a man made government instead of God's kingdom.

Watchtower justifies Old Testament Jewish war as necessary to cleanse the promised land of infidels. In the same manner, Christian Churches express their engagement in warfare as a role ordained by God. The very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses is a result of the global expansion of Christianity at the end of the sword.

The Bible never specifically forbids Christian engagement in warfare, and since this was such a significant aspect to Bible history, if continued engagement in war had become an unacceptable practice to the writers of the Christian Scriptures they would have stated so. In fact, several New Testament passages indicate acceptance of war.

When military officers came to John for baptism, John did not direct them to leave the service.

Luke 3:14 "Also, those in military service would ask him: "What shall we also do?" And he said to them: "Do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with YOUR provisions."

At Matthew 8:5-13 Jesus did not turn the soldier away when asking to heal his manservant, rather commending him saying "I have not found anyone In Israel with such great faith" In the account at Acts 10 Cornelius was not required to step down as commander of Roman soldiers before being baptised.

Paul shows that governments have a right to use the sword to prevent bad, and that we should be in subjection to what they demand of us. This would include going to war when called for.

Romans 13:1-4 "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad."

Russell recognised this scripture required early Witnesses to engage in civilian service and even attend the front line.

"The early Bible Students took this scripture to mean that if a Christian was drafted in wartime, he would be obligated to put on a uniform, shoulder a gun, and go to the front, to the trenches. It was felt that since a Christian could not kill a fellow human, he would be compelled to fire his gun into the air if worst came to worst." Watchtower 1995 May 15 pp.21-22

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.